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16bit MAP FILES ('99-'01)


The listed ECU files are map files only and do not include the software sections. They are 96k files and the map data is located between 0x0001:0000 and 0x0001:7FFF.

0x0000:0000 to 0x0000:FFFF is blank.
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YearMap File
32920-24F20199924F20.zip
32920-24F21200024F21.zip
32920-24FD0200124FD0.zip

Enginuity Definition File

Here is the latest Enginuity Definition File for 16 bit ECUs.

Busa1999-2001.zip

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1.00 - Dec, 1 2007 Basic maps for -24FD0 (needs a lot of work)
1.01 - Jan,25 2008 Added -24F21 ECU rev limiters only, updated -24FD0 limiters
1.02 RR 01-26-08 relabeled misidentified RPM limit. Was labeled IGN but is really a fuel limit

1.04 RR 03-09-08 Defined ignition maps for 24FD0 including converting map data to Degrees BTDC
1.05 RR 03-13-08 Added Limits by Gear (includes Speed Limiters for -24FD0) and Gear Selector Voltage Table
1.06 RR 03-31-08 Tweaked the Limiter definitions; Added Gear Limits enable/disable and Hard Limit Only mode.
1.07 RR 04-02-08 Now has seperate definitions for -24F20 and -24F21. Added base fuel maps for all three models.









-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 07:46, 2008-04-03

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32 bit busa files can be found here.

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enginuity definition 1.01


Added the 2000 Busa 32920-24F21 map file.
Updated the xml by adding -24F21 rev limiters only, updated -24FD0 limiters

-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 16:56, 2008-01-27

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enginuity defintion 1.02


Mislabeled a rev limiter fuel cut off value as an ignition value. Fixed in 1.02 Enginuity Definition.

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Definition v1.04


Identified the Ignition maps for the 24FD0 and converted map data to Degrees BTDC.

The conversion is based on the manual listing the advance as 4 degrees at 1150 rpm. The formula I'm using is 

Degrees = [(map value / 256) * 90] -10

This gives me a figure of 4.06 degrees at 1150 rpm. I have not verified these values with real world testing.

Like the 32 bit Busa I found Ignition maps for outside cylinders 1 and 4 and inside cylinders 2 and 3. These are grouped by gear. There is a set for 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th, and 5th or 6th. And of course there are two duplicate sets of maps; MS0 (MS pin grounded) and MS1 (MS pin open ).


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Excellent -thank you.

The earlier definition in 32bit was based on kawi info: x/256*90-12.5 so there may be 2.5degree diffrence now to earlier definitons. Anyway the earlier formula gave nice -0 degrees on smaller cells which would now be raised to 2.5 degrees.

I think that one of the variables contains something that resembles remarkable the ignition advance values in degrees. Also have Innovate DL-32 to check the ignition advance. Recall having a few degrees difference from earlier testing - but never get to confirm this as that has not been a priority. Maybe now its time to get back to this issue.



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Definition now includes limiters by gears. For 2001  -24FD0 the 6th Gear soft limit is the 186 speed restriction. 

10,065 - 10,089 rpm

Also added the Gear Selector Voltage table for all models.

enginuity002.JPG

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Enginuity definition v1.06


I updated the defintion with easier to use RPM limiters. See the setting RPM limiter thread for details

-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 23:36, 2008-04-01

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Enginuity v1.07


Updated Enginuity file.

Old version -24f20 and -24f21 shared the same definition. Turns out they are actually different so I added a seperate definition for each.

I added base fuel maps for all three models. I defined the RPM, Throttle maps as Alpha-N. I believe these are the High Load maps they refer to in the manual. The RPM, MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) maps are labeled Speed Density and are most likely the Low Load map.

Also cleaned up some typos.


-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 07:53, 2008-04-03

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RE: 16bit MAP FILES ('99-'01)


RidgeRacer wrote:

The conversion is based on the manual listing the advance as 4 degrees at 1150 rpm. The formula I'm using is 

Degrees = [(map value / 256) * 90] -10


Based on some experiments I think the base timing is around 9 degrees on the outer bank cylinders. The actual timing seems to be calculated as interpolated result over last cell and current cell.

By using he figures below with 32bit ecus the datastream timing output result equals with timing chart and is also the way how its built into the ecueditor:
ign_sub = 0

ign_div = 256

ign_mul = 66



 



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I measured it with a timing light on an 05 and it seems to be about 5-6 degrees at idle.

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Hi RidgeRacer,

I am currently using the 32920-24F00 ECU for the 1999 busa (got 2 of these) for my Hayabusa powered Mini. I searched the forum, but was not able to find a map file on this ECU. Can I just use the 32920-24F20 file for the 99 ECU or do I have to use a specific file for my ECU?

Thank you in advance.

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Most the information on this forum is about the newer 32bit Busas (2002-2007). The 16bits are a bit more complicated and expensive to flash....

While you can flash the 32bit using a $20 USB cable through the wire harness the 16bit require $400 worth of hardware and software to flash and require cutting a small hole into the ECU case and installing a plug. You will also need a custom ribbon cable and regulated 12V power supply

busa004.jpg

On the positive side you don't have to worry about finding a map as you will be able to just download your own directly from your ECU. Your only real worry is whether the US '99 map definition for RomRaider will work with your EU '99 map. If not you will have to have someone write you a new one.

You might want to read some of the posts about how to program in the ZX-12 thread. It is also 16 bit and most the same information applies to your 16 bit busa ECU




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Hi RidgeRacer,

Thanks for your reply. I had some contact with PetriK too and I am thinking to upgrade to a 32-bit ECU and replace all changed components.

Have to look for more info, but it should be possible.


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Hayabusa 16bit ECU OBD flash tool ('99-'01)


Hi gents,

Just wanted to let you know that we're now able to read and reflash the 16bit Busa ECUs via an OBD interface without notching the ECU. The K-Line OBD interface is identical to the one used by the 16bit GSX-R 600/750/1000s and is very inexpensive to make. You can read more about in this thread:

     http://ecuhacking.activeboard.com/t56202335/32920-35fxx-16bit-gsxr-750-ecu-finally-hacked/?page=1&sort=newestFirst

 

Here's a pictures of the software GUI:

     Flash%20tool%20v3.1a.jpg         

 You can also find additional information on my site here:

     https://sites.google.com/site/mrhollywoodk3/home

  

Cheers!!!

 



-- Edited by mr_hollywood on Monday 7th of March 2016 12:22:50 AM

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16bit MAP FILES ('99-'01)


Hi guys,

Has anyone had issues using these defs with RomRaider? I'm using version 0.5.8 RC1 and the program seems to wipe the first 40 bytes when you save...

 

Thanks! 



-- Edited by mr_hollywood on Monday 14th of December 2015 02:10:55 AM

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For anyone using RomRaider, there is an issue with defining the "storagetype" and "endian" for "static" X or Y tables that will corrupt your binary, so the above definitions files must be cleaned-up before using them with RomRaider. You can also run the "GSXR Sum" utility found here to confirm your binary hasn't been corrupted:

https://sites.google.com/site/mrhollywoodk3/home/obd-bootloader-utilities



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RomRaider XML file check...


Hi guys,

For anyone using a recent version of RomRaider, I created the "RRcheck" utility to check for (and correct) "Static" declaration incompatibilities in XML files that cause the ECU binary file to become corrupted. You can find a copy here:

https://sites.google.com/site/mrhollywoodk3/home/ecu-definitions

 

And here's a pic:

RRcheck.jpg

 

Merry Christmas!!!



-- Edited by mr_hollywood on Monday 28th of December 2015 03:14:05 AM

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Busa 16bit Flash tool ('99-'01)


Hi guys,

Just posted the Flash tool v4.2 upgrade. This version adds the ability to read the ECUs NV Ram (Yoshbox / Teka fuel trim settings) as well as some other minor bug fixes. Write capability is only included in the licensed version.

mr_hollywood@cogeco.ca



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