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Most current Maps and definitions


I will use this thread to consolidate and post the most current maps and definitions.

12-29-07 Ver 004 first posted tlr_def.xml
12-30-07 Ver 005 added RPM and Throttle axis scaling, updated rev limit
03-09-08 Ver 006 ffaspector added map details to tlr_def
03-09-09 Added TLS bin and definition.



Suzuki NumberDenso numberMap .binEnginuityWinOLS
32920-02F60
02F60.bin99TLSdef.zip
32920-02FA0112100-029002FA0_k1.bin tlr_def.zip 
32920-02FD0112100-032002FDO_k1.bintlr_def.ziptl1000r-aus.kp

I'm going to try something different with the Enginuity definitions. I'm not going to change the file name every time I updated it; tlr001, tlr002, etc. Instead I will update a revision history at the top of the file that can be viewed in any text editor.

Technical Note: The TLR bins cover address 0000:0000 to 0001:7FFF and are 96k bytes in size. The CPU in the ECU has three 32k flash banks accessed individually. On previous 4 cylinder bikes we found 2 banks of code and 1 bank of maps and the physcial address in the CPU matched the locations in the bin.

As it turns out twins must use less code and have fewer maps because the TLR ECU has only 1 bank of code and 1 bank of maps. The TLR maps start at 0000:8000 in the ECU, not 0001:0000 as in the above bins. It makes downloading, editing, and flashing easier with the software tools available to use the same bin format for the TLR as the other bikes.

For most people this is a non-issue but for those of you using the above bins to disassemble the code or write enginuity definitions be aware that the map data in the bins above is offset +0x8000 from the addresses used in the ECU software.

Also the above bins are Map data only. There is no code in them except for the 99 TLS which is an image of the 32K eeprom out of the ECU.





-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 06:56, 2008-03-10

-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 06:59, 2008-03-10

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Updated the tlr_def for Enginuity above.

Now has RPM scaling for all maps and Throttle scaling for maps that use it. The remaining unknown X axis maps are some kind of manifold pressure but its very convoluted and I haven't been able to do the math on it yet.

I change the limiter map to reflect the A/B map status.

I am seriously considering going back and redoing all the Map A/B definitions on this bike, and others, to MS0 and MS1.

MS0 = MapA = pin 25 grounded or low
MS1 = MapB = pin 25 open or high

I think that is more accurate than the arbitrary A/B I'm using now.


-- Edited by RidgeRacer at 06:03, 2007-12-31

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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:26:04 AM

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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:25:55 AM

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Thanks for posting those and doing a definition.

Is the TLS bin maps only or code and maps?



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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:25:46 AM

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Just to complete the chart, the Denso Number for my TLS ECU 32920-02F60 is 112100-0220

The Denso Code on the PCB is 112115-0073
The Denso sticker code on the 27C256 EPROM is 112151-0080

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Did a read of a US TLS 32920-02F41.
Denso sticker code: 112151-0025
PCB denso code: 112115-0073

bin file: 32920-02F41.bin

Many thanks to Sam for helping me finding a reader and also with some tips when getting the EPROM off the board.

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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:24:57 AM

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ffa, will the definition files not be the same for all the TLS ECU's confused

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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:24:50 AM

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Good old Suzuki LOL

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Is there such a thing as a WinOLS definition file ?

Save me trying to identify maps on bin files already sorted ?

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-- Edited by ffaspector on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:24:33 AM

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32920-02FD0 112100-0320 02FDO_k1.bin tlr_def.zip tl1000r-aus.kp

link to 02FDO_k1.bin file is broken :(

Is anybody have this file?

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RidgeRacer i have some updated bins for the TLR and TLS bikes, but these are for use with my software programmer. I will change the offset and send them to you to upload here. Please send me a valid email address as i don't have one from you.

Also can you give a hand on some HC16 assembly code? I am writing a program and it seems that i am doing something wrong. Email me and i will send you more details.

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psyche wrote:

RidgeRacer i have some updated bins for the TLR and TLS bikes, but these are for use with my software programmer. I will change the offset and send them to you to upload here. Please send me a valid email address as i don't have one from you.

Also can you give a hand on some HC16 assembly code? I am writing a program and it seems that i am doing something wrong. Email me and i will send you more details.

Cheers




Thanks for answer!

I've read 107 page of the theme "stock ecu programing" on tlzone.net... but website tlzone was down :(

I've 98 hp TLR for E4 (french market), ECU is 02FA0.

I've download your software and Enginuity sofware. I'm think within 1-2 days I'll got cable.

As a first my step, I'll want to try a flash a 02FD0 dump.

my email pioneer32@mail.ru


-- Edited by pioneer32 on Saturday 2nd of October 2010 09:30:59 PM

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The 02FA0 ecu is not restricted! The restriction is at the intake manifolds of the engine! Check there and you will see that the intake is too small. If my memory serves me well you can remove the restriction by removing the metal plates under the intake manifolds.

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psyche wrote:

The 02FA0 ecu is not restricted! The restriction is at the intake manifolds of the engine! Check there and you will see that the intake is too small. If my memory serves me well you can remove the restriction by removing the metal plates under the intake manifolds.




Intake are not restricted (some time ago I've remove throttle-body for cleaning and adjusting).
Also I've installed Yoshi slipons.

My friend have k1 TLR for US market (ecu is 02FDO)... It's bike pulling more faster than my (conditions of engines are similar).... may be 02FDO got full power on all gears and 02FA0 have 1-2 gears restricted...

My previous bike was gsxr1000k2, this bike restricted on 1 and 2 gears. after installing tre-mod (ecu on 1 and 2 gear got signal like at 3). Without tre on 1 gear produce 95hp with tre 117hp, two years ago I've access to dynojet dynamometer.

I therefore want to compare maps downloaded from my 02FA0 and published here 02FD0.... But the link to 02FD0 broken :(





-- Edited by pioneer32 on Monday 4th of October 2010 05:06:38 AM

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I think that it is broken because we mostly use the 02FA0 to tune our bikes. I have it somewhere. I will search for it and post it here but the definition file is outdated!

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psyche wrote:

I think that it is broken because we mostly use the 02FA0 to tune our bikes. I have it somewhere. I will search for it and post it here but the definition file is outdated!

Cheers




Ok. Thanks!

I'm think, I must completely check fuel pump and fuel injectors.... in this parts may be secret of the poor pulling...

And.... I can simply swap ecu-s with my friend and repeat test...


Anyway many thanks for answers!!!! beer.gif

 



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Some models were restricted, they had a web accross the inlet rubber, restricted throttle body bellmouths, ECU, smaller exit hole in the stock exhaust cans or any combination of the above.



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psyche wrote:

The 02FA0 ecu is not restricted! The restriction is at the intake manifolds of the engine! Check there and you will see that the intake is too small. If my memory serves me well you can remove the restriction by removing the metal plates under the intake manifolds.




hi if there is some restriction in the manifold, there goes less air in the engine, so ECU have to inject less fuel, if the ECU will be the same it cannot know that there is something in the inlet and the engine will be rich. So european 100HP bikes R ans S both have  restriction in the intake and restricted ecu, the ECU can be derestricted with cuttin the black/brown wire... Its probably the one which switches A/B maps, these ECUs have these two maps different, one restricted and one not. I have this ECU in my "derestricted" german bike, I will try to learn here on this site how to hack the ECU and then I could send maps from this unit( I will try to buy spare ECU first..so if someone have cheap one for TLS let me know). French bikes are 100HP like german but it is restricted different way, it has different intake cams, with less lift. This is the reason why there is no restriction in the manifold, the ECU will probably have two different maps but Im not sure.

 



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Anybody... If you have 02FDO (USA) bin file... please email me pioneer32@mail.ru

Thanks in advance! thumbsup.gif

-- Edited by pioneer32 on Friday 26th of November 2010 12:44:49 PM

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