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How to enable shifter functionality for the K9 750 ECU?


Hi all,

New to the forum, but I need some help so decided to post here hoping for a solution.

I have a GSXR 750 K9 that i am converting to race bike only setup and would like to implement the shifter option via the ECU of the bike itself.

i have already read what i could find on the topic here in the forum threads but so far to no avail.

I cannot get to enable the function from the Ecueditor either or load a preactivated bin so i need some help. I came to think that such a code is not yet written for our bikes but i am not sure. Could somebody more knowledgable than me shed some light on the matter?

PS sorry if I make mistakes - english is not my native language but i hope you get the point.

Atanas

My ECU has the following codes read by the Ecueditor:

Gixxer 750 EU K9- 32920-38H00

ECU ID: DJ65SE00



-- Edited by Dark_Ness on Wednesday 17th of October 2012 04:57:30 PM

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BUZKA seems to have patched in QS code in a 1000 K8 bin. http://ecuhacking.activeboard.com/t48692183/quickshifter-options-in-ecueditor/
Dont know if there are any differences but theoretically if you have same firmware with just different mapping you should be able to do the same to yours.
Or use BUZKA´s file and transfer your 750 maps to it

Just guessing :)
But check if he can help you out or share the file.

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Thanks for your reply!

just messaged him and we'll see how it goes. i am not much down into the details and i do not know if the firmware is the same or not. would rather expect it to be the same between k9 600s and 750s ECUs but as i said I do not know so we will see how he thinks.

Still well worthed the try, thanks again

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I can share the .bin without problems.As first option You can make COPY-PASTE values from 750 to 1000 modded .bin.On weekend i can check on my old laptop if i can enable it under VB source files and if it works on the sam way as it worked with 1000.
But please give me some time...:)

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Great!

I sure hope that it will work and I will send you my e-mail for the 1000 .bin file. i will try to dig into what you said about copy paste and see if that route is possible for me too.

Thanks again



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any update with these problem?

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Nope, nothing yet for me. I am following the updates and what they include of both Ecu Editor and WRT but nothing yet. I guess both parties are focused mainly on Bussas and litre bikes and the progress for smaller bikes is slow. Well, it is what it is I guess.

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bad news i think!!thanks for the reply!



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Dark_Ness wrote:

Nope, nothing yet for me. I am following the updates and what they include of both Ecu Editor and WRT but nothing yet. I guess both parties are focused mainly on Bussas and litre bikes and the progress for smaller bikes is slow. Well, it is what it is I guess.


This is not really the case, i have not been favouring the larger capacity models, the focus in WRT initially has been to build out the main features (i.e. Fuel and Ignition map editing AutoTune etc etc) across all applicable models including the 600's and 750's, low hanging fruint in the way of Advanced Setting have been implemented for the most popular models i.e. Hayabusa and K8 1000.

Things like developing quickshifter functionality requires a substantial investment in time and it has not been done for any models yet in WRT, however it is on the list of things to do (i get asked every other day about it) and rest assured there will be quickshifter support in WRT for the 600's and 750's.

I am also the primary (i.e. currently only) developer on ecueditor, there will not be any major updates to ecueditor as WRT is replacing it and has been designed and built from the groud up to allow for cross model consistent feature devliery for things like quickshifter etc.



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Until the shifter is in the WRT implemented you can take the 1000 K9 file and change the maps to the 750 ones.

But be careful -> the 1000 takes the MS1 as standart, the 750 takes MS0 as standart. You have to change the maps crosswise from 750 MS0 to 1000 MS1 and so on. Or you set "always MS0" at advanced settings.

Take the "Injektor Balance" from 750 L1 and the STP-Maps from 750 in WRT.

If you have changed all the maps correctly, flash in with Ecueditor and the file and shifter will work fine. For tuning the maps exactly you can also open with WRT.

Good luck!

 



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Hi and thanks for the reply!

I will def try that advice. Previous time i could not accomplish successfuly the copy paste thing. for some reason it would not let me copy paste the top of the revs settings between the 750 and the 1000 maps but I will try it again even if I have to put them in manually now that I know it will work in the end.

One thing though I would like to confirm is that the autotune function will work as normal once I flash the ECU with the modified 1000 map. And you mean I should use a stock GSXR K9 1000 bin file in ecu editor (like the 32920-47H00 EU/AU one) and not BUZKA's modified K8 1000 file? or do you think they will both work?



-- Edited by Dark_Ness on Sunday 27th of January 2013 08:04:55 AM

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Hi,
for autotune it makes no different with which file you work.
I don't know buzka's file, but I think it'll also work if he said.
If you change all the maps to the 750 maps it isn't so important with which basic file you start.
Most different is in the possibilty to advanced settings.
Cheers

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Cheers Mate!

I am trying both now. i was afraid there will be a problem with firmware version of the ECUs and one bin would not work because of that. It initially made sence to me since you called for the K9 1000 ECU bin and it was the same year as mine K9 750 just different cc engine but if you both with buzka say it shouldn't matter I am trying both now.
I will try it and as soon as I test it will post a report and the bin with which it worked best. Thanks again for your input.

PP It is snowy as in antarctica these days here so road tests and autotune will have to wait a bit, but I now have a point to start from which is great!

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you can make this bin for 750 k8 europe?

please i read nice things for you and maybe you know fix it!I cant fix this map from ecueditor and i dont know any other programme to edit copy paste bin to another bin!

thanks in advice!



-- Edited by darksoul on Sunday 27th of January 2013 10:34:54 PM

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If someone need i can also send .BIN from 1000 k9 with qs enabled for testing.It dont work on my 1000 k8 good.Maybe on 750-600 k8-k9 after COPY-PASTE of map values it will work.

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BUZKA wrote:

If someone need i can also send .BIN from 1000 k9 with qs enabled for testing.It dont work on my 1000 k8 good.Maybe on 750-600 k8-k9 after COPY-PASTE of map values it will work.


 please my friend make that bin for GSXR 750 08 (gsxr 1000 k7 bin with 750 maps in)i will tested and tell if its right because many people has the same problem!

thanks in advice again!



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Hi

Finish GSX-R750L1 with Shifter.biggrin



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Hi, guys i just tested the Buzka's K9 1000 with advances quickshifter and my K9750 maps on it and it work pretty fine in the garage - no road tests done yet because of the bad weather here. i have also tested a generic K9 1000 file with normal qshifter with the 220 Ohm resistor and works fine in the garage. Works in the garage means - the bike works and was not able to test it on the road but I ASSUME for now that the shifter will work too. If someone wants the bins for further testing i can send them to you and also Buzka has them since yesterday.

Brix what do you mean by ""Finish GSX-R750L1 with Shifter.biggrin""? Can you share it with us or is it now available in ECU editor or WRT? Oh, I just looked up what L1 meant - it is too new for us I guess - our bikes are one generation older - we will have to wait for it a bit more .

Just to make it clear here too - these are bins of a K9 1000 with maps copied from my OEM stock maps from a K9750 UK version - Buzka's K9 1000 has also modified MS1 A mode ijector balance tables(the way I want to test it - but it might not be good so please verify for yourself!)



-- Edited by Dark_Ness on Monday 11th of February 2013 06:14:56 PM

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Dark_Ness wrote:

Hi, guys i just tested the Buzka's K9 1000 with advances quickshifter and my K9750 maps on it and it work pretty fine in the garage - no road tests done yet because of the bad weather here. i have also tested a generic K9 1000 file with normal qshifter with the 220 Ohm resistor and works fine in the garage. Works in the garage means - the bike works and was not able to test it on the road but I ASSUME for now that the shifter will work too. If someone wants the bins for further testing i can send them to you and also Buzka has them since yesterday.

Brix what do you mean by ""Finish GSX-R750L1 with Shifter.biggrin""? Can you share it with us or is it now available in ECU editor or WRT? Oh, I just looked up what L1 meant - it is too new for us I guess - our bikes are one generation older - we will have to wait for it a bit more .

Just to make it clear here too - these are bins of a K9 1000 with maps copied from my OEM stock maps from a K9750 UK version - Buzka's K9 1000 has also modified MS1 A mode ijector balance tables(the way I want to test it - but it might not be good so please verify for yourself!)



-- Edited by Dark_Ness on Monday 11th of February 2013 06:14:56 PM


 sent me please the bin for 750 k9?its for us bike or europe?could you make it for  europe?

thanks in advice!my mail its in your Whiteboard!



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I am just putting a K8 engine, ecu, tb's and loom in my K7 750 after the engine blew. I have a K8 1000 bin in EcuEditor with QS added. How do you copy the fuel maps over, is it just copy and paste line by line??

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Scratch the previous question. I managed to figure out that I needed to click into the top left cell in the grid to paste, rather than just click the map I wanted to paste into.

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Glad you did it. I usually would just copy paste through excell just so i have the flexibility to change somethging or if it does not work out to start from scratch. you can also have a lot of fuel map backups in different excell sheets.

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