WoolichRacing.com USB Interfaces now available

ballad2 · Senior Member

WoolichRacing.com USB Interfaces now available

jkwool · Guru

Hi,

I have received the first batch of new USB ECU Interfaces for use with ecueditor.com. These are the new design interfaces that support fast rate data logging at ~55ms rate. They are a very compact design being about 1/3 the size of previous interfaces and they have several leds to indicate mode (engine data/flashing), power and serial port communication.

I am doing a special introductory offer for ecuhacking board members, with 20% off the price of the USB interfaces for January 2012 only.

To take advantage of the discount buy a USB Interface from the http://www.woolichracing.com/Products.aspx page and enter the following discount code in the shoping cart page

Discount Code: ecuhacking.activeboard.com

Cheers

-Justin.

jgennaro · Veteran Member

Nice job Justin!

Please post up some pics of your new unit.

Thank you.

Jason

jkwool · Guru

ballad2 · Senior Member

Does the interface includes the 2 additional pins and the molex-to-Yosh/SDS adapter? A mate here has not the old interface so he needs all

the cables. From the pics it looks like an additional USB cable is required,

is this the case?

Cheers,

--db

jkwool · Guru

I just posed the pics above with only the interface ;)

When you buy it from the WoolichRacing.com web site the interface comes with

2 wire harness
molex - yosh and sds harness
usb cable to connect to a laptop

so everything you need to get up and running.

p.s.
Thanks for letting me know about the firefox issue, this has now been fixed!

09GraySilverBusa · Member

Looks real nice Justin.
I can hardly wait for the Log Box.

-- Edited by 09GraySilverBusa on Sunday 22nd of January 2012 03:51:11 PM

Busa Quick · Senior Member

Very nice work!

" data logging at ~55ms rate"

What buad rate does that equal to?

jkwool · Guru

50,000

standard is 10,400

busa2001 · Guru

nice work...

jkwool · Guru

The WoolichRacing.com Log Box Prototype, final electronic testing is being done at the moment before i finalize the code and get it into production :)

It is a full USB Flashing Interface with the addition of a micro sd card slot and high speed data logging!

The micro sd card will appear on your laptop as a USB Hard drive so you can read the log files directly from ecueditor.com Auto Tune over the USB cable. You wont need to unplug the Log Box after reading the data, just flick the switch between data logging and ecu flashing and flash your changes to the ECU over the same USB cable :)

You can also do normal engine data logging, and check fault codes and use the data display in ecueditor.com as per the USB Interface.

-- Edited by jkwool on Thursday 26th of January 2012 02:00:10 PM

ballad2 · Senior Member

A question: how do you create the log file name and under what trigger?

Is there a new log file creation at each engine startup or after a number of logged lines or the creation has to be required in some way?

The software in the logbox is upgradable?

Moreover does the case fit under the seat?

Cheers,

--db

sportbikeryder · Guru

looks great Justin.

When it is done, have your people call my people.

jkwool · Guru

ballad2 wrote:
A question: how do you create the log file name and under what trigger?
Is there a new log file creation at each engine startup or after a number of logged lines or the creation has to be required in some way?
The software in the logbox is upgradable?
Moreover does the case fit under the seat?
Cheers,
--db

The log file creation is automatic when you start the engine, the log files are named sequentialy (and have the date/time) so basically there is no user interaction required, when in data log mode and powered with the engine running it is logging data.

Yes software is upgradeable, i have written a micro sd bootloader, so you will basically download the latest version of the log box software from the WoolichRacing.com site and save it to the micro sd card and the next time the log box starts up it will flash itself with the new software from the micro sd card :)

yes will totally fit under the seat, very compact design.

stocker · Guru

nice stuff justin, i can market it for you here in the us.....?

sportbikeryder · Guru

Marc,
If you have your bike up and running, and happen to have a stock pair valve sitting around, throw it on and flash for shiftlight to verify it works

.

stocker · Guru

got both John, what do you need...?, I got a multi led shiftlight sitting around, do you need me to disable the nos and hook up the shift light....?

stocker · Guru

Please if your serious, lmk, i will be able to do it this week, the bike is sitting at the shop, the car stuff has got me busy, i got to finish a 363sbf single turbo car this week, but i can make time till i finish my work enviroment....?

stocker · Guru

the shift light is a mini MSD that was on the black bike.....the one you have the clutch from, it needs no drivers, so it should be straight forward.

LenTurbo · Senior Member

Justin

I have just ordered one of your new interfaces , is it very different from the high speed data box I got from PetriK , that is as far as speed is concerned ?

How long do you think it will be before you have the log boxes ready for sale ?
Any indication on price ?

It would be nice not to have to cart around that little laptop in my backpack to Log.

Doca · Member

Is this purley for use on GSXR ECU's ?

I.e. is it possible to logg AFR voltage & RPM for use with other vehicles?

Obviously not expecting to flash anything else.

Thanks.

jkwool · Guru

stocker wrote:
Please if your serious, lmk, i will be able to do it this week, the bike is sitting at the shop, the car stuff has got me busy, i got to finish a 363sbf single turbo car this week, but i can make time till i finish my work enviroment....?

Hey Marc,

I have written shift light and launch light code in the drag tools section. It works by turning the pair valve port on and off, so will only be useful for bikes not running nitrous or solenoid control for boost.

I have not been able to test this and a couple of guys that have tested it with actual shift lights have had mixed results.

What would be cool would be to hook up the pair valve and test the launch light and shift light code (if possible) to see if the code logic is correct.

If it works with the pair valve connected it tells me that its a load issue and the shift light circuit needs to match the resistance of the pair valve for it to work ;)

Thanks for you help mate ;)

jkwool · Guru

LenTurbo wrote:
Justin

I have just ordered one of your new interfaces , is it very different from the high speed data box I got from PetriK , that is as far as speed is concerned ?

How long do you think it will be before you have the log boxes ready for sale ?
Any indication on price ?

It would be nice not to have to cart around that little laptop in my backpack to Log.

Thanks for your business Len, i will ship it off tomorrow ;) the baud rate is the same as the one petri created the circuit board for (50000), the interface uses an on circuit usb-serial chip so the conversion of the signal happens closer to the ecu which results in a cleaner signal and more stable logging results as the usb signal is much more tolerant to interference than the 5v serial signal. These interfaces have the addition of power, serial activity and mode leds as well ;)

Based on the experience of getting the USB Interface to market, the log box is probably 6-8 weeks off, this stuff takes time to pull together and get sorted ;) I am looking forward to it as well, be cool to just leave it installed and logging, and plug the laptop in occasionally and check the tune based on the logs from all the rides done over a period of time.

jkwool · Guru

Doca wrote:
Is this purley for use on GSXR ECU's ?
I.e. is it possible to logg AFR voltage & RPM for use with other vehicles?
Obviously not expecting to flash anything else.
Thanks.

the full functionality is specific to GSX-R, Busa and B-King ecu's. However the engine data logging uses the SDS protocol which i beleive is common across fuel injected suzuki's so the core logging may work with other models, that would have to be tested though ;)

AFR for the above models is enabled by routing the analog output from the wideband directly into the O2 sensor pin on the ecu (and by selecting the relevant settings in Advanced Settings in ecueditor.com).

Turboy750 · Veteran Member

In stupid terms for me. I want your new flashing cord and your datalogging.

It sounds like I should wait 8 weeks and buy the datalogger because it comes with the new harness?

simple answer please.

jkwool · Guru

If you are interested in the on board datalogging then the log box is the best/only option and it will include a full usb interface as well ;)

Turboy750 · Veteran Member

rough price so I can have paypal ready?

jkwool · Guru

Not sure yet, i have to get the final production and component costs before i finalize the price, should be somewhere around the $350 mark but this is just a rough figure, could be more could be less ;)

ballad2 · Senior Member

jkwool wrote:
The log file creation is automatic when you start the engine, the log files are named sequentialy (and have the date/time) so basically there is no user interaction required, when in data log mode and powered with the engine running it is logging data.
Yes software is upgradeable, i have written a micro sd bootloader, so you will basically download the latest version of the log box software from the WoolichRacing.com site and save it to the micro sd card and the next time the log box starts up it will flash itself with the new software from the micro sd card :)
yes will totally fit under the seat, very compact design.

Very good specs. I wonder how you set the data rate.

Is it autotuned to the optimal value (fastest without data loss or data duplication) or you set a fixed value?

jkwool · Guru

i have to work this out yet, and i also want to make it so that it will connect to the standard 10,400 baud and/or the fast baud rate 50,000 baud without any user intervention.

I have a correction to the spec above, there is no battery for the real time clock so the log files wont have a date time stamp.

ballad2 · Senior Member

This makes me wonder about a problem that we might already have.

When merging several files (and this is likely to be the case) they

will have the same origin in the time offset (first field).

Because of this we might belive that two samples are close timewise

while they belong to different runs, a situation that could be confusing for

the autotune logic.

jkwool · Guru

you can currently open several files from the open log file in the data viewer screen, from memory there is logic to handle this situation so the logs from different files are not grouped. will need to double check. i think it is done in the file load routines.

Twice · Senior Member

Wonderful, order placed! :)

GREAT WORK!

-- Edited by Twice on Monday 30th of January 2012 02:50:15 PM

ballad2 · Senior Member

jkwool wrote:
you can currently open several files from the open log file in the data viewer screen, from memory there is logic to handle this situation so the logs from different files are not grouped. will need to double check. i think it is done in the file load routines.

Yes, at file load the distinction is still possible. The problem can happen if

the autotune parameter are changed without loading again the files

unless the log time stamp in modified to incorporate a different base

for each file. Maybe this is already the case, I've not checked the code.

Twice · Senior Member

Justin, how do you currently set the baud rate? And for wich models does fast logging work?

Is it changed in the software, or interface hardware?

jkwool · Guru

i have hacked the Gen 2 busa, B-King and all the gixxers supported by ecueditor to enable fast baud rate data logging. You have to enable it in ecueditor Advanced Settings which changes some code and settings in the bin file. the ecueditor software detects if fast baud rate is enabled in the bin file and adjusts the FTDI chip in the interface to run at the faster rate when showing engine data and logging engine data.

ballad2 · Senior Member

I checked the case of multiple file load. The indicated offset

restart from 0 at each file. I think it would be more consistent

to shift the starting offset to the point where the previous

file left. Even if there is no date/time in file name, but the files names are

generated with a progressive number, if they are loaded in

increasing number order the sequence of offsets would keep

a chronological order. The time offset would correspond to a sort of

clock which runs when the engine is running.

badass1000 · Veteran Member

I just ordered one of the new interfaces. I can't wait for the log box to come out.
thank you for the discount.

jkwool · Guru

Thanks for the business guys :) I will get them shipped out ASAP.

Last day of the discount period today, enter the following discount code to get 20% off

Discount Code: ecuhacking.activeboard.com

Cheers
-Justin.

Craig · Member

Justin,

Thanks for taking care of the members here on the forum. Looking forward to using the USB port on my dyno's PC. Another order placed!

Thanks,

Craig

jkwool · Guru

No problems at all Craig, thanks for your business, I will have your interface shipped out shortly!

I have just added some bike harness install instructions for the various models to the web site, user manual for the USB Interface to follow shortly: http://www.woolichracing.com/Documents.aspx

Cheers
-Justin.

toptunemike · Veteran Member

Hi Justin.J ust to say I'd like to place a definate order for the log box when finished. Been waiting for this to happen for ages as it's a great solution to set up on the cars I deal with. Perhaps you could e=mail me at toptune@talktalkbusiness.net when ready for shipping. Many thanks and great work. Mike, Toptune.

ballad2 · Senior Member

I modified the bin file with the "fast baud rate" flag and reflashed.

All ok, data logging has a 100% good communication using the

65ms data rate.

The only thing I noticed is that the bike does not start if the

interface is connected to the molex but the usb is not connected to the pc.

I tried both "engine data mode" and central switch positions but the the fuel pump does not prime. This prevents from keeping the interface

connected under the seat (where it fits nicely between the battery and the ecu connectors) ) when not logging data through the pc.

I see the green power led, red led for flashing, amber led for data mode

as expected. I have not seen the other led close to the power (serial activity?) turning on, is that normal?

-- Edited by ballad2 on Thursday 2nd of February 2012 01:12:20 PM

jkwool · Guru

Hi Mike, thanks for your interest in the Log Box, probably the best idea is if you register on our web site, i plan to let everyone know when the log box is available.

http://www.woolichracing.com/Register.aspx

Cheers
-Justin.

ballad2 · Senior Member

I just got the new interface, thank you Justin, very fast shipment.

It worked out of the box on windows 7 64bit professional.

In windows xp I had to download and setup manually the USB 2.0 serial

driver from the FTDI site:

http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM20814_Setup.exe

jkwool · Guru

That was very fast from Australia to Italy :) good to hear that it worked first go on windows 7 and thanks for the link for the drivers for xp ;)

smithabusa · Guru

I've got 25 of these in stock in the USA now :)

jkwool · Guru

Hi Ballard2,

The green LED next to the power LED should flash when serial data in being send through the device. I have just uploaded the user guide for the USB Interface which explains this and the other information available

http://www.woolichracing.com/Documents.aspx

Cheers
-Justin.

jkwool · Guru

Also, send me an email if the interface is not working as expected as I offer a 1 year warranty if there are any problems with materials or workmanship.

Cheers
-Justin.

sportbikeryder · Guru

So if it is connected to teh bike with no computer the bike will not start? Is this regardless of the switch position? Is it just a 2 position switch with no null center position?